Harvard has released its own version of the MyPlate design that was unveiled in June. Like its predecessor, this version also has some critics shaking their heads.

While Harvard’s healthy eating plate design does have some interesting additions, it still makes many of the same mistakes the Department of Agriculture made with their design.

First, the good. Harvard’s design includes water, which is conspicuously absent from MyPlate. And Harvard’s plate also includes a small bottle for healthy oils. The Ivy League’s design also advocates eating a meal that consists of lots of fruits and vegetables, but half the plate? That’s a bit idealistic.

Now the bad. One, Harvard’s plate is extremely text-heavy. The point of the plate design is to provide nutrition information at a glance, but the additional text just ends up crowding the image with information people probably won’t read.

Harvard’s design also makes the mistake of giving protein its own section, and a large one at that. They do say to limit red and processed meats, but if you don’t read the accompanying text, you’re going to miss that.

Are these healthy eating plates even necessary? Much of the information they contain is common sense, but you know what they say about that.